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		<title>By: twopointouch &#187; #PRDebate Start Again &#124; twopointouch</title>
		<link>http://www.dannywhatmough.com/2009/04/22/its-pr-but-not-as-we-know-it/comment-page-1/#comment-709</link>
		<dc:creator>twopointouch &#187; #PRDebate Start Again &#124; twopointouch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Danny Whatmough didn&#039;t turn up but favours a media mix: &quot;no one group will dominate and that there will be plenty of new tricks to learn and plenty for everyone to practice&quot;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Danny Whatmough didn&#39;t turn up but favours a media mix: &quot;no one group will dominate and that there will be plenty of new tricks to learn and plenty for everyone to practice&quot;. [...]</p>
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		<link>http://www.dannywhatmough.com/2009/04/22/its-pr-but-not-as-we-know-it/comment-page-1/#comment-668</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 13:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kleinezeitung (Kleine Zeitung)</title>
		<link>http://www.dannywhatmough.com/2009/04/22/its-pr-but-not-as-we-know-it/comment-page-1/#comment-566</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 08:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 08:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Wildfire Blog - Wildfire PR &#38; Marketing - Business and Consumer Technology Public Relations : Blog Archive : Wildfire: on the world&#8217;s leading&#8230;?</title>
		<link>http://www.dannywhatmough.com/2009/04/22/its-pr-but-not-as-we-know-it/comment-page-1/#comment-562</link>
		<dc:creator>The Wildfire Blog - Wildfire PR &#38; Marketing - Business and Consumer Technology Public Relations : Blog Archive : Wildfire: on the world&#8217;s leading&#8230;?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 11:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is changing at a rapid pace - The PR industry is being forced to wake-up and realise that the world is a very different place to column inches, press releases and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is changing at a rapid pace &#8211; The PR industry is being forced to wake-up and realise that the world is a very different place to column inches, press releases and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Warner (C&#38;M Online PR)</title>
		<link>http://www.dannywhatmough.com/2009/04/22/its-pr-but-not-as-we-know-it/comment-page-1/#comment-406</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Warner (C&#38;M Online PR)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You gotta try and make the next one Danny.  Would be good to catch up. Really, on the night, we (the digital debaters) weren&#039;t trying to put things in boxes. We were asking &#039;what has Big PR done to earn the right to lead clients in Online...?&#039;  

My beef is that service models haven&#039;t changed, and because of this many (traditional Media Relations) firms are losing out and will find themselves sidelined in the short term.  

So, I care less for definitions and more about delivery (as does every single client right now)... and its this that a classic PR agency isnt addressing.  

Meantime, everything you say is absolutely right.  But what does this look like in a &#039;new&#039; PR firm...?  There&#039;s not much going on right now....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You gotta try and make the next one Danny.  Would be good to catch up. Really, on the night, we (the digital debaters) weren&#8217;t trying to put things in boxes. We were asking &#8216;what has Big PR done to earn the right to lead clients in Online&#8230;?&#8217;  </p>
<p>My beef is that service models haven&#8217;t changed, and because of this many (traditional Media Relations) firms are losing out and will find themselves sidelined in the short term.  </p>
<p>So, I care less for definitions and more about delivery (as does every single client right now)&#8230; and its this that a classic PR agency isnt addressing.  </p>
<p>Meantime, everything you say is absolutely right.  But what does this look like in a &#8216;new&#8217; PR firm&#8230;?  There&#8217;s not much going on right now&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Aldiss</title>
		<link>http://www.dannywhatmough.com/2009/04/22/its-pr-but-not-as-we-know-it/comment-page-1/#comment-402</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Aldiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess this blurring you talk of, or convergence, is really what the problem around defining the semantics and nomenclature is all about. In digital marketing we conduct activity from most disciplines for most clients - indeed it&#039;s almost critical to a successful campaign. Don&#039;t forget that seo used to just be that before it became search engine marketing when it embraced link building. With outreach in tow now as part of success we should just call it digital marketing and be done with it!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tim Aldiss’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aldissandmore.com/2009/04/14/ibm-on-change-intelligence-connectivity-and-analytics/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IBM on change, intelligence, connectivity and analytics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess this blurring you talk of, or convergence, is really what the problem around defining the semantics and nomenclature is all about. In digital marketing we conduct activity from most disciplines for most clients &#8211; indeed it&#8217;s almost critical to a successful campaign. Don&#8217;t forget that seo used to just be that before it became search engine marketing when it embraced link building. With outreach in tow now as part of success we should just call it digital marketing and be done with it!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Tim Aldiss’s last blog post..<a href="http://www.aldissandmore.com/2009/04/14/ibm-on-change-intelligence-connectivity-and-analytics/" rel="nofollow">IBM on change, intelligence, connectivity and analytics</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Digital Love: Analogue Relationships &#124; Rock Star PR</title>
		<link>http://www.dannywhatmough.com/2009/04/22/its-pr-but-not-as-we-know-it/comment-page-1/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Love: Analogue Relationships &#124; Rock Star PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Danny Whatmough chirps in – but I’m still mad at him for not making it. [...]</description>
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